Showing posts with label institutional church. Show all posts
Showing posts with label institutional church. Show all posts

Saturday, May 3, 2008

WILD at HEART ~ By JOHN ELDREDGE (Book Review)

DISCOVERING THE SECRET of A MAN’S SOUL




I read Wild at Heart three years ago because when I read the first chapter … I knew this man had something to say, from a God’s Man’s heart. Having the blessing for my wife and I being able to attend a Southern California gathering of one of his ministries a couple weeks ago, I came home and picked up this book for the second time and devoured it in three sittings.



Not being a conformist in The Traditional Church myself and always having questions about what and why things were taught and done the way they were, I found my self searching for The God of the Scripture. For three decades my search for and finding His Face and learning and knowing His Ways more each day, I was always coming across men who were disillusioned and disappointed in the god presented to them in church.



Over the years I found my God & Savior to meet me at my need and was always there when ministering to other men (And women at different times.) who had problems relating to the hoops we were told to jump through from the pulpit. Some of us were not the preverbal ‘Nice Guys’ The Church expected us to be. To find out that He had made us a certain way and to fellowship with Him in that Uniqueness was so refreshing and revealing. It would have been an easier Trek had I had my learning enhanced and confirmed by the practical and alarmingly revealing perspective of Wild at Heart years ago!



John emphasizes that each one of us were created in His Image of being Wild at Heart. I can remember twenty-five years ago telling men that my Jesus was not a ‘Frail Fromp’ in a white dress, for women and children alone! My Lord was a Man’s Man. He was compassionate and understanding when the time was at hand, yet always ready to confront disingenuous acts and turn over tables in the temple courts.



Am I really a man? Is the haunting question in a male’s life. John give examples of men at the coffee shop sharing a few verses having resolved that “there is no battle to fight!” except “traffic and meetings and hassles and bills.” How many times during my secular and mundane employment was my heart set on fire when given a challenge that looked impossible, but somehow I knew I would accomplish it! The Battle was on!



The Wound that is there that needs to be faced up to and resolved. How awesome that that insight reveals and then a way for it to be reconciled. How many of us can relate to the different examples used, some from out of John’s own life.



The Battle for a man’s heart that so many times is lost to the enemy by it not being affirmed by a father who has not been affirmed himself. Needing to hear the Father’s (Or Male Authority Figure’s.) voice of approval. Then Hearing The Confirmation From The Father Himself!



Showing the wound healed, the enemy engaged, the beauty rescued and living the adventure that is placed before every man who can acknowledge and grasp hold of it.



Now the Nay Sayers will report that John takes Scripture out of context, though I yet have to see them give an example. All I can say is that the appropriate passages were used at the proper time to minister the truth at that moment. The Holy Spirit ministers beyond the nominal critique.



Have some questions or issues with the god of The Church, men this is a must read!

1 aka Dr. D. P. Gatten dpgatten dot com ©2008

Saturday, March 29, 2008

Freedom Or Bondage

I passed by a Blog this morning, belonging to who is now a good friend of ours and had to stop and make a comment and to encourage her to continue to write more. What I will do here is to copy a piece of it here and then follow up with my comments to her post. Some of you will be informed and some may take difference. Either way tell us what you think!

From: Tsaneen

living together in harmony


Thursday, February 21, 2008

Paul's "traditions" and church liturgy - Are they the same?

How is it when you begin looking into a subject your search takes you down many rabbit trails. I was reading II Thessalonians Chapter 2 when I came across verse 15

“Stand firm, and hold to the traditions which you were taught,
whether by word of mouth, or by letter from us.” (NASV)

The question arose “What are the traditions Paul is referring to here?”

This question occurred around about six weeks prior to a conversation with a friend who announced that he and his wife had become proponents of the liturgical practice of the Anglican Church. I was stunned by this news as previously they had been staunch participants in a close knit home church with no ritual or connection with the institutional church.

So my line of enquiry was broadened to cover more in depth searching of early church history. This process is taking some time – I’m not a fast reader. ... ... ... (Katch)



I see this has been posted for a while and wanting to encourage you to continue in penning your thoughts, I will add this belated comment.

>>>“What are the traditions Paul is referring to here?” <<<>

Rabbit Trails can be misleading. As I perused your post, and that as there is no way to research ‘Word Of Mouth’ that your observations from the well marked paths, i.e. In The Word appear to be valid.

No doubt, you were stunned by the extreme change in your friends approach to Worship. What is exciting to me is that The Living God has a unique relationship with each individual believer that is continually developing. Let me give you another example of this bizarre change seemingly going in what appears to be bondage to those of us that think we have been set free.

Two or three decades ago, fellowshipping in a Traditional Charismatic Assembly, a couple who we became friends with over the years, were having a rough time with marital communications. I, along with several others in leadership endeavored to help them along to no avail. After several years they had stopped fellowshipping with us and the next time we came across them they had found a Seventh Day Assembly and both of them were rejoicing in how it had really put their marriage together. Most of us in the TCA were incredulous, as the SDAs are very legalistic. Yet here was where God was meeting them in their need.

AnyHOO, pick your pen back up and make your God Ordain Contributions, so the rest of us may continue to benefit! But what do I know? 1 www.wonpreacher.com